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The original Collins thermal sensor is kind of neat: It's a normally-closed thermal switch with a heater, which biases the thermal-switch up toward nearly opening... at this point, a delicate dance ensues: heat-calories from the tube try to open the switch, while heat-calories are removed by the blower-airflow.
The original Collins thermal sensor is kind of neat: It's a normally-closed thermal switch with a heater; the heater biases the thermal-switch up toward nearly-opening... at this point, a delicate dance ensues: heat-calories from the tube try to open the switch, while heat-calories are removed by the blower-airflow.


BUT - it does not need to be such a delicate dance - the tube anode-seals <b>require</b> <250degC, and <b>should</b> be operated <225degC; in my prudence I think <200C should be safer. Infrared/laser remote temperature measurements suggest the tube may only rise xxxdegC above ambient, providing a very large margin, and a large window between "operation" and "danger". My solution will be a thermal-switch, which will open the 12V and K203 when it senses 160degC - ample safety for the tube, but <b>not</b> being a nagging nanny to the operator :-)
BUT - it does not need to be such a delicate dance - the tube anode-seals <b>require</b> <250degC, and <b>should</b> be operated <225degC; in my prudence I think <200C should be safer. Infrared/laser remote temperature measurements suggest the tube may only rise xxxdegC above ambient, providing a very large margin, and a large window between "operation" and "danger". My solution will be a thermal-switch, which will open the 12V and K203 when it senses 160degC - ample safety for the tube, but <b>not</b> being a nagging nanny to the operator :-)
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Thanks to induced-draft furnaces and hot-water-heaters, the HVAC industry has a wide selection of suitable temperature- and pressure-sensors. On the other hand, the Collins sensor is UnObtainium, and mine doesn't appear to be working correctly. We can now have <b>deterministic, sustainable, reproducible and improved</b> tube safety!
Thanks to induced-draft furnaces and hot-water-heaters, the HVAC industry has a wide selection of suitable temperature- and pressure-sensors. On the other hand, the Collins sensor is UnObtainium, and mine doesn't appear to be working correctly. We can now have <b>deterministic, sustainable, reproducible and improved</b> tube safety!

We'll use these temperature and pressure switches to cut the High voltage and screen supply, disabling the main tube - same as Collins did.


<gallery caption="Thermal and Pressure switches to replace Collins Overtemp K102" widths="400px" heights="400px" perrow="2">
<gallery caption="Thermal and Pressure switches to replace Collins Overtemp K102" widths="400px" heights="400px" perrow="2">
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File:adjustable_pressure_switch.jpeg|All-Temp NS2-0000-03 Universal Air-Pressure Switch. RobertShaw 2374-510 looks similar
File:adjustable_pressure_switch.jpeg|All-Temp NS2-0000-03 Universal Air-Pressure Switch. RobertShaw 2374-510 looks similar
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We'll use these temperature and pressure switches to cut the High voltage and screen supply, disabling the main tube - same as Collins did.


==Comment==
==Comment==
Anecdotally, the adjustment procedure for the K102 thermal switch is to run the amp at just above full-rated-power, let it stabilize, then tweak R106 until it just shuts down. But following this means somewhat over 1kW DC input to the tube, and perhaps somewhere around 750W dissipation. At this dissipation level, with the stock blower's airflow, the anode temperature rises by xxxdegC.... far, far below damaging levels. I conclude that this sensor is not factory-set to save the tube, but rather to prevent the operator from exceeding the designed power-level. Saving the tube is a side-effect. I have re-prioritized, and made tube-safety paramount.
Anecdotally, the adjustment procedure for the K102 thermal switch is to run the amp at just above full-rated-power, let it stabilize, then tweak R106 until it just shuts down. But following this means somewhat over 1kW DC input to the tube, and perhaps somewhere around 750W dissipation. At this dissipation level, with the stock blower's airflow, the anode temperature rises by xxxdegC.... far below damaging levels. I conclude that this sensor is not factory-set to save the tube, but rather to prevent the operator from exceeding the designed power-level. Saving the tube is a side-effect. I have re-prioritized, and made tube-safety paramount.



[[File:Thermal_overload_switch_k102.jpeg|500px|thumb|center|removed, original Collins thermal-overload switch K102]]
[[File:Thermal_overload_switch_k102.jpeg|500px|thumb|left|removed, original Collins thermal-overload switch K102]]


Collins' thermal sensor is quite elegant: it senses the heat-calories coming in (from the anode) and heat-calories
Collins' thermal sensor is quite elegant: it senses the heat-calories coming in (from the anode) and heat-calories
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When it's closed, this switch allows the 15VDC Control current to flow, which will then permit K203 to close and power the High Voltage transformer (if all other safety switches are also closed).
When it's closed, this switch allows the 15VDC Control current to flow, which will then permit K203 to close and power the High Voltage transformer (if all other safety switches are also closed).


When this switch opens, the 15VDC applied to K203 is removed. K203 opens. High voltage and screen voltage cease, and the tube stops operating.
When this switch opens, the 15VDC applied to K203 is removed. K203 opens. High voltage and screen voltage cease, and the tube stops operating.<br clear=all>


<gallery caption="Mounting a New Temperature Sensor" widths="400px" heights="400px" perrow="3">
<gallery caption="Mounting a New Temperature Sensor" widths="400px" heights="400px" perrow="3">

Latest revision as of 20:50, 23 September 2020

The original Collins thermal sensor is kind of neat: It's a normally-closed thermal switch with a heater; the heater biases the thermal-switch up toward nearly-opening... at this point, a delicate dance ensues: heat-calories from the tube try to open the switch, while heat-calories are removed by the blower-airflow.

BUT - it does not need to be such a delicate dance - the tube anode-seals require <250degC, and should be operated <225degC; in my prudence I think <200C should be safer. Infrared/laser remote temperature measurements suggest the tube may only rise xxxdegC above ambient, providing a very large margin, and a large window between "operation" and "danger". My solution will be a thermal-switch, which will open the 12V and K203 when it senses 160degC - ample safety for the tube, but not being a nagging nanny to the operator :-)

This alone will ensure tube-safety, but let's go even farther - let's use both belts, and suspenders :-) Modelling my Dayton-motored blower suggests the blower will produce somewhere around 0.8 inches water-column (wc) with the 4CX1500B. The published requirements for the 4CX1000A pressure is 0.2"wc at a full 1kW dissipation; the 4CX1500B requires even less at 0.18"wc for 1kW dissipation! And normal operation will duty-cycle / time-average the dissipation down.

So, we'll sense the air-pressure at the base of the tube. Again, we have a wide window to allow full operation, and also maintain total tube safety. 0.1"wc should be "sufficient" for normal operation; 0.3"wc should allow for "no-time-limit" 1kW dissipation (maybe my RTTY!).

Thanks to induced-draft furnaces and hot-water-heaters, the HVAC industry has a wide selection of suitable temperature- and pressure-sensors. On the other hand, the Collins sensor is UnObtainium, and mine doesn't appear to be working correctly. We can now have deterministic, sustainable, reproducible and improved tube safety!

We'll use these temperature and pressure switches to cut the High voltage and screen supply, disabling the main tube - same as Collins did.

Comment

Anecdotally, the adjustment procedure for the K102 thermal switch is to run the amp at just above full-rated-power, let it stabilize, then tweak R106 until it just shuts down. But following this means somewhat over 1kW DC input to the tube, and perhaps somewhere around 750W dissipation. At this dissipation level, with the stock blower's airflow, the anode temperature rises by xxxdegC.... far below damaging levels. I conclude that this sensor is not factory-set to save the tube, but rather to prevent the operator from exceeding the designed power-level. Saving the tube is a side-effect. I have re-prioritized, and made tube-safety paramount.


removed, original Collins thermal-overload switch K102

Collins' thermal sensor is quite elegant: it senses the heat-calories coming in (from the anode) and heat-calories going out (from the airflow). And it doesn't noticeably impact the airflow.

When it's closed, this switch allows the 15VDC Control current to flow, which will then permit K203 to close and power the High Voltage transformer (if all other safety switches are also closed).

When this switch opens, the 15VDC applied to K203 is removed. K203 opens. High voltage and screen voltage cease, and the tube stops operating.